Turkestan Shrikes – phoenicuroides


MG. Not to be missed! Most of the flurry of first winter ‘isabelline Shrikes’ in Britain/ NW Europe this autumn have been stand-out 1cy Daurian Shrikes. – isabellinus. So when you see stunning images of the other taxa – which is likely to get more ID debate – don’t miss it! I hope these images taken by Mike help illustrate the differences between 1cy Daurian and Turkestan (and how easy peasy some of the latter can be).

Mike Watson

“Dear Martin

Here are a couple of Turkestan Shrikes from October/November 2015 in Oman. We usually see more phoenicuroides than isabellinus (using current id thinking that is). I have seen isabellinus more often in the north of Oman and in Bahrain (maybe wintering birds?) but phoenicuroides (on its way further south in east Africa) is usually seen throughout Oman in late October/early November.

Take care, Mike”

Turkestan Shrike Mike Watson 3 phoenicuroides (1 of 1)

Above: 1cy Turkestan Shrike (phoenicuroides type?), Oct/ Nov 2015. Mike Watson


Turkestan Shrike Mike Watson 2 phoenicuroides (1 of 1)

Above: 1cy Turkestan Shrike (karelini type?), Nov 2014, Mike Watson


Check out the two photos above. Do they represent examples of full-on young phoenicuroides (loads rufous above, fantastic barring btw) and then the bird which is very greyish above and white below- nice karelini features Lots of ID bullet points to wrestle with in Challenge Series: AUTUMN. Thanks Mike!


Turkestan Shrike Mike Watson 1 phoenicuroides (1 of 1)

Above: 1cy Turkestan Shrike Oct/Nov 2014. Mike Watson


Turkestan Shrike Mike Watson 4 phoenicuroides (1 of 1)

Above: 1cy Turkestan Shrike. Oct /Nov 2015. Mike Watson


Daurian Shrike

Daurian Shrike Mike Watson 1 (1 of 1)

Above.  Daurian Shrike prob 2cy+ female (thanks to Nils van Duivendijk), Nov 2014. Mike Watson


3 thoughts on “Turkestan Shrikes – phoenicuroides

  1. Justin Jansen

    The research on what is what, should first start with decent research in the breeding area’s (type localities) and subsequent youngsters. Now most is speculation what is what. The results of this note are – yet again – wintering birds. First establish how broad is the variation in breeding birds and their offspring and then research marked birds establish how they look like in their wintering area.


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